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2/3/97:
The fact that the jury finding O.J. Simpson liable for the wrongful death of Ron Goldman did not contain a single African-American is ...?



Name: Bradley Coleman
Email: colemans@webspan.net
Response: Do black jurors deliver better justice to a black person that a white person does to a black person? Obviously not, so then what is the problem? Big deal, his jury only had one black/asian person on it; justice was still served.



Name: Alice
Email: goree@livingston.net
Response: I think the civil trial stunk, I think they broke every rule etc. there is, the telephonecall testimony was illegal, the shoes unlessthey could be pulled out examined etc. otherthan in a photograph were irrevelant. I don't beleive you could tell that much about shoes ona body with pants hanging down etc. Oj was found not-guilty in the first that should have settled that issue unless they could show thatit was his negligence that caused those two tobe murdered he should not have had to pay.I never believed him guilty but even if I had Iwould have had to let him go, due to the actionsof their going over the fence, everyone knew that they were not worried over OJ. That statement itself proved perjury on their part. I AM WHITE AND I HOLD THIS OPINION. I am sick ofthe news media letting everyone think that only black people thought OJ innocent.



Name: Kenneth
Email: kg-bird@worldnet.att.net
Response: The way I see the O.J. Simpson trial is just another means of bringing down the constitutional rights and freedoms we have protected under our constitution. Rodney King's situation the blacks were complaining that the justic system doesn't work. O.J. Trail the whites are complaining that the justice system doesn't work. And so the government controled media says to the American people, "what do you want us to do." The people says, "we want change." The government says gladly. We will do your thinking for you (Communism). The government is setting us up for this global dictatorship. The WCPA already have a constitution for the world. In order to put it in effect hear in this country they have to take down our present constitution.



Name: B O P
Email: supa_ronn@hotmail.com
Response: surprising -- what the hell did his lawyers do to prevent this. It was obvious that the lawyers for the Goldmans and Browns were going to get as many whites on the jury as possible. Then maybe again, it was divine intervention because everyone in their heart knows OJ killed Nicole and Ron!!! It is delusionary to think he didn't do it. I would not have convicted him during the jury trial because Marcia Clark and Chris "Crybaby" Darden screwed up the case and left more questioned unanswered than answered: The "discovery" of the glove(s), Mark Fuhrman, Vannater, the timeline, etc. Had they (the prosecution) done a quick, clear and straightforward job, OJ would be bunk buddies with the Melendez brothers. Instead, they were blindsided by fame and possible fortune and just could not deal with the genuis that is Johnny Cochran. If I were a family member of Nicole or Ron, I would definitely want OJ in jail instead of a share of $33.5 million. However, if he was able to get off, I would at least want him to suffer, even if it were only monetarily!!!



Name: KLeonard
Email: k8wra@juno.com
Response: Having no blacks on the O. J. Simpson is not unexpected. If I were the prosecuting lawyers I would have tried to arrange the same thing. But it probably wouldn't have made any difference if there were. The evidence presented tended to show that he was responsible for their deaths. But he wasn't convicted in his trial for murder. And since we are a land of laws, he, therefore, wasn't guilty of their murders. It isn't first and won't be the last time that rich people have gotten away with murder. It is the first time that I remember a person being sued for monetary damages for a murder they weren't convicted of doing. That part probably was due to the racial aspect of the case. But he can pay. It all shows the truth of what Clarence Darrow said: " The law is an ass."



Name: april crump
Email: april_crump@nt.com
Response: To be expected.



Name: franklin Adel
Email: dfda@webt.com.
Response: I believe that the O. J. Simpson case was just another step in the direction of developing the global plantation community whereas all will be included as slaves to the ecnomical system. You have to continue to let the slave understand that he will not have more holdings in this system than the master. Let the slave go out, and according to his talents, make as much money as he may. When rthe master feels that he's made enough to bring into the masters barns[courts]. you strip him of the harvest he's provided for the now incorporative masters. SO they now continue on in plans of onslaught, framing and setting up those slaves who knows how the experience of living like the master. SLAVE FOR A DAY! Now convince the exploring white mistresstha the blackman is a violent and animalistic mate and lover, so come on back home.



Name: ross
Email: ross19@fuse.net
Response: It baffles me why so many in the black community hail OJ Simpson as a matyr. What has OJ done for black people ? I've never read in EM, Essence, Ebony, Jet or the Final Call where OJ contributed one dime to any black organization trying to uplift the community. As to the legal matters, OJ was guilty in the criminal trial, but due to the incompetence of the prosecutors, he walked. There was more than enough evidence to find him guilty. OJ was not found to be innocent, but was found not guilty. This means the state failed to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. That does not mean that OJ did not commit the crimes. I personally am not symphathetic OJ for his defection from the black nation decades OJ. You reap what you sow. It is reaping time for OJ !



Name: Rita
Email: Response: Predictable.
Although I've felt all along that OJ was guilty, I can't help but be totally disgusted at the way this country has responded to this case. It has been the rule that you could escape justice if you had enough money. Now that a black person has done just that, they want to change the rules. These two trials and the two verdicts will have serious consequences for race and racism in this country.



Name: Bill S.
Email: kentshaf@riverview.net
Response: OJ's guilt or innocence was decided at the criminal trial. He is innocent! This civil trial was purely about money. The Goldman or Brown families are gold diggers. Was OJ found innocent in the criminal trial because there were blacks on the jury or because he was innocent? To say the color of the jury determines the guilt or innocence of the accused is racist. Mark Furman tried to do just that and we were all outraged. There are certainly racist whites, but to say OJ's verdict should be based on race is racist itself. The FACTS were weighed by a jury (don't matter what color) and as I said, OJ is innocent regardless of what anyone thinks. This second jury was clearly influenced by the media.
One last thought, could OJ or any one person commit these horrible crimes, alone, in such a short time, and then hide the very bloody clothes so well that they have never been found? The FACTS say NO!



Name:
Email: Groundlng1@aol.com
Response: A Jury of Peers.... Skin color does not constitute a peer. A peer is any member of society, that holds no prejudices against the defendant prior to a trial. If these people are sought out, and I believe they were in the Simpson civil case, then they were a just and capable jury. The fact that the racial make-up was white was not strived for by either the prosecution or defense. It was just the order of which they were drawn and admitted.



Name: Randy Scott
Email: rscott@pbmo.net
Response: This trial simply shows the wrecheness of many white people in this country.A total of 33 million dollars has been placed at the feet of a innocent man. It's no doubt in my mind if the victims were people of color and the accused was white, there's noway he would have been convicted.I'm not a hater of white people but I know how they are and I thank God that I'm not white.



Name: Belita R. T. Franklin
Email: belita@pop.southeast.net
Response: The paucity of Africana in the civil case should not be a surprise to us. We have spent hundreds of years trying to assimulate. Re- search the origin and specification of civil laws. Remember, loop holes in law[s] were designed 'just in case....' The Cuban/Puerto Rican communities, Chinese, Japanese, Asians, and so on have always known that they would never be fully accepted, so they created their own com- munities, stores, etc. and they frequent their own. During election phases they have the 'clout' and money to tell politician what they want, and what they will do if they don't get it. We, Africana still don't get it! We praise an athelete just because he went public a- bout having the HIV virus. A man who could have passed on a deadly disease to his spouse and child. We are ready to fight over being called a name, but will not speak up as a unified people or come together in knowing that this country will never see us as being descendents of the creators of High Culture [John Henrik Clarke]. Going into the 21st Century we are still 3/5 of a being--this wasnot amended in the consti tution [re-read the 13th amendment]. Remember the Tuskeege Experiment, Port Chicago 1944, The Bell Curve, James Webster Smith, CIA and Ricky Ross, Molefi Asante [Afrocentricity], Lefkowitz and 60 Minutes and ... realize this civil case tells us, again, how 'america' feels about us.



Name: Telly Jackson
Email:
Response: I feel that they could have found at least two or three African-American people to sit on the jury, in my heart I don't feel it was fair. Also I don't think that O.J. was guilty in the first place so why should he be liable.



Name: KDR
Email: kdrost@nwer.sandia.gov
Response: I can't believe that anyone really cares at this point. The only thing I see is that the media is bias and the interest in this case would have fade out a long time ago had O.J.'s wife had been black. The racial divide I see this trial making is because, white people are so, upset that a black man supposedly got away with murdering a white woman. They are losing faith in the justice system. Which is hypocritical nonsense, because the justice system hasn't worked for blacks in the history of this country, but that didn't upset anyone. Futhermore, O.J.is probably guilty, but black folks are so loyal,they just receive him back. All I know is he has never had any loyalty or concern for the black community.



Name: LIONEL
Email:
Response: AN ALL WHITE JURY? THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE SURE THEY GOT HIM THIS TIME. POLITICS!!!!!!!!!!!



Name: just me
Email: rlands@hotmail.com
Response: This whole 2-3 year drama just SUCKS.



Name: Wes Butterfield
Email: wbutterfield@cornell-iowa.edu
Response: I am hopeful we can finally put this case to rest. Regardless of whether or not OJ is gulity is not for us to decide. I am sure OJ may not be happy with the verdict but is glad this case is over. I look foward to picking up a magazine, newspaper, or turning on the tv without hearing/reading about OJ Simpson. What or who will the media pick on next??



Name: DEREK AND GEORGE
Email: WILLIAGE@COOKMAN.EDU
Response: WE FEEL THAT FIRST JUSTICE IN THIS COUNTRY TRUELY HAS A DOUBLE STANDARD O.J. WAS AQUITED AND THEN FOUND GUITLY.MANY PEOPLE SAID AFTER THE TRIAL THAT HIS MONEY GOT HIM OFF.IF HIS MONEY GOT HIM OFF MAYBE THEY FEEL HIS MONEY CAN BRING NICOLE AND RON BACK . NO THAT WON'T HAPPEN BECAUSE HIS MONEY ONLY DID WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GET THE BEST.UNTIL PEOPLE STOP SEEING EVERYTHING IN BLACK AND WHITE YOUR JUSTICE WILL BE IN BLACK OR WHITE.



Name: Bob Bailey
Email: Bobbie3959@aol.com
Response: Not unusual. Given the different burden of proof, the make-up of the jury, the level of public scritiny and the fact that the judge excluded several pertinent defenses, this was a foregone conclusion. It may or may not be the right conclusion, but it was predictable. I do not think that the fact that there were no African-American jurors was the major reason for the decision. If that were true, then the decision by the predominately Black jury in the first trial would be similarly suspect. This has more to do with the demographic make-up of the jury. For example, apparently the only Black juror was a middle class woman whose daughter worked for the prosecutor's office. Ultimately are we wasting our time mulling over this issue when the real question should be "Wasn't there a conflict of interest between the estate of Nicole (made up primarily of the children) and the family of Ron Goldman?"



Name: Alan Hopewell
Email: alan_hopewell@arcoakland.org
Response: The fact that no African-Americans served on that jury, should have jury invalidated the whole process. A jury, made up of peers up of peers should always be representative of the populace it is serving.



Name: SVEN
Email: NONE
Response: I THINK THAT HE`S GILTY



Name: Serious in Chicago
Email:
Response: To sum it up in one word - PREDICTABLE! In recent conversations, I've come to the conclusion that the single black juror was chosen to make it appear as if they were trying to be fair, but the the intent all along was to somehow get rid of her during the process; which is precisly what happened. I also believe it was known all along that her daughter worked as a secretary in the D.A.'s office. They (Gil Garcetti & the Prosecution) held the info until it could work for them. The daughter being a secretary (non-professional) posed no threat to their case. She is not in a power position(I'm speaking from experience). Gill Garcetti supposedly uncovered this "fact" at the last minute,(suprise! surprise!) and felt it his civic duty to pass it along. Garcetti was also the person who uncovered similar "facts" during the criminal trial. Garcetti, the Prosecution, and their friend, Chris Darden, are nothing but devious, underhanded individuals who will stop at nothing to get the results they desire. I just hope that O. J. has moved his money to Swiss accounts.



Name: Jesse S. Morris III
Email: jessee@surfnetinc.com
Response: The fact that O. J. Simpson was tried by an all white jury , or for that matter tried again, was a travesty to justice. It just goes to show you when blacks attempt to obtain justice in America , all you find is just us getting punished. If O.J. had been white it would have been over after the criminal trial. How can you be innocent in one court and guilty in another. As usual in America its all about race.



Name: Nnamdi Nzingha
Email:
Response: The fact that no Brothers or Sisters were on the jury contradicts the law that says you will be tried by a jury of your peers. Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder "saw" what was going to happen to juice. If it were 1797 or 1897 juice would have been lynched! Fred Goldman, says he didn't do this for the $, I wish someone asks him to donate it to charity to see if he's truthful. The amount of the compensatory damages is based on the amount a person would have earned over there lifetime. Now what waiter will earn several million dollars in their career.



Name: jim ward
Email: none
Response: upsetting, because a jury is supposed to accurately reflect the people of america, and this one obviously didn't.



Name: ferrpw
Email: apaulo@grove.ufl.edu
Response: This whole O.J. thing is out of hand. They interuppted the President to announce his verdict. Who cares if O.J. was convicted w/o having a black juror. If he was with a black woman this would not be an issue. O.J. never did anything to help the black community, so why are we wasting our time talking about his debts.



Name: Bro. J'wayne
Email: killajd@hotmail.com
Response: It is the way things were planned to go. The posecution dropped the ball on proving O.J. guilty so the civil jury decided with the evidence and their opinions that O.J. was guilty. The verdict honestly, doesn't bother me due to the fact O.J. has never been a symbol of true Afrikan manhood in my or my peers life. He bought Nicole Brown Simpson at the age of 18 and he also bought her parents. Well he payed for Nicole in life and he will pay for Nicole in death. O.J. needs to come clean about what happened i can not say he killed those 2 people but he knows something and is covering and lying about these things. This was evident by his testimony. Personally i hope we as a people support those who fight for the real liberation of black people as much as they support non-repentant traitors



Name: Robert
Email:
Response: I believe the verdict in the O.J. Simpson trial was totally unfair. I am not saying this simply because he is a black man, rather I am saying this because we never learned who truly killed his ex-wife and her friend. For all we know the real killer may be still be free. If the jury was unable to convict mr. Simpson in a criminal trial for their deaths, how in the world can he possibly be blamed for their deaths? Remember, we don't know everything about Nicole Brown Simpson nor Ron Goldman. Therefore, it is wrong to rule out the possibliity that maybe an element from the lives of Nicole or Ron contributed to their death. Now, I am not saying Mr. Simpson is a great humanitarian or a victim of circumstance. After all, had he not forgot his true color, none of this would have occured. But I disgress, the civil trial was unfair. The event was devised to give white people some sort of false justification against the man they will always blame for the death of two of their race, regardless of his true guilt or innocence. They need to feel O.J. Simpson has paid something for this crime. If the justice system were really interested in truth, they would continue their investigation of all possible suspects. But once again, we see how equal rights for all doesn't always mean equal rights for all. For instance, the question brought up the point that the jury did not contain a single Afro-American. Was this fair? Of course not. Was this expected? Most definitely. After all, the white people wanted Fred Goldman to win and they did pay for his legal fees. The justice system knew if black people served on the jury, the outcome would not be as pleasant for them. Go back to the criminal trial; there were some blacks and some whites. The selection was varied and this provided an equal voice for all. The jury had to decide a man's life and his possible future. But in this civil trial, only money was at stake and in the opinion of the white people, O.J. had their women, he did not need their money. That's my opinion on everything, what's yours?



Name: Marsha
Email: Al-Tariq@msn.com
Response: NOT surprising. White America wanted payback. This is only history repeating itself. They went as far as they could to convict, even to the point of changing laws on the book. Could we as African Americans got away with changing the laws?



Name:
Email: norlin@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
Response: I feel that the "system" was not going to stop the media circus until they convicted him of something. I do not have any loyalities to OJ, however, the subtle implications of the trial kept me from watching. My final thought is that I wished African Americans could get so much justice when violence happens to us and it is "clearly" someone's fault.



Name: LaMarr D. Edgerson
Email: edgersoL@Silyn.net
Response: In this particular trial one person more or less would not have made a difference; regardless of the color of the skin, because the verdict did not need to be unanimous. I believe it only had to be seven out of ten who believed he was at fault. It ws clear to me from the start that the trial would not go in O.J.'s favor simply by some of the actions the judge was taking. My problem with the "American" judicial system is this.....If I am to be judged by a jury of my peers; then, I want a jury of "my peers". A jury that lives and sees America similar to me - not just one or two people.



Name: mbowen
Email: boohab@mindspring.com
Response: irrelevent.



Name: Mr. Mackey
Email: kem1@p3.net
Response: Something to think about!



Name:
Email: hightower@webtv.net
Response: The fact that there was no black juror remaining to make the final decision in the civil case was not relevant to the results. The standard of proof is easier to meet in a civil case. The decision in the civil case is just as valid as the decision in the criminal case.



Name: BIGJIM18
Email: BIGJIM18@OLS.NET
Response: The fact that O.J. had an all white jury and was found liable on all accounts is just a way for the whites to get some getback; a blind man can see that. Remember a white jury is just, a black jury is uneducated.



Name: Just another Black man
Email:
Response: not surprising. After all, the trial is what several news anchors have defined as "justice." This is what is known as a self-fulfilling prophevy. The media and the American populus have tagged the Black male as an endangered species, public enemy #1, and a societal deviant. Essentially, the Black man is a nationally designated threat and handicap. Unless he conforms to this decided psycho-social malignancy, then he is either an "exception to the rule" or "he's lying." In this case, "